Jenna Bush Hager and Hoda Kotb are taking their “Mama’s Done” list up a notch. Last week, the TODAY co-hosts rattled off a “Mama Is Done” list, swearing off parenting pickles like throwing “big parties,

“Well, she said, ‘You really need to listen to this song called (‘My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys’) which I love,” said Jenna. “She gave me a listening guide and then also told Henry and I about what each song was supposed to be about.” Jenna and her husband Henry Hager have two daughters, Mila, 11, and Poppy, 8, and son Hal, 4.

The song was brought up as the women talked about who Swift might've written "Fortnight" about, considering both her longtime ex-boyfriend Joe Alwyn and Matty Healy, whom she dated for a few weeks.

On a recent episode of the Today show, co-anchors Hoda Kotb and Jenna Bush Hager found themselves bonding over a common mistake concerning Taylor Swift‘s new song “Fortnight,” from her latest album The Tortured Poets Department.

I think we should send my children to your house and your children to mine, like you know that old show, and see what happens,” Bush Hager told her co-host.